CHRISTIAN AND NICK WERE ALSO THE BIG BUILDERS DOING ALL THE TOUGH WORK BEHIND THE SCENES, THEY NEVER GOT CREDIT FOR ANYTHING AND SAVED OCC'S ASS TONS OF TIMES DURING THEIR "DEADLINES" ON PROJECTS.

Why are you people so negative??? It seems to me that reading through these posts that there are alot of jealous people out there!! Jesse James has an ego as big as anyone...did you guys not see how he left his show high and dry when he threw his toys and didn't want to be on TV anymore, yeah real professional. At least Paul Snr and Jnr are getting by on their own name and not trying to cash in on some famous 'relative' who is so distant it's a joke to say they're even in the same family.

Just the way the Pauls handled each other and how there is no remorse or reconcilation between them - I've stopped watching the show. The bigger slight is that my passion for choppers has wained and I believe that the overall impression of the biker industry will be tarnished due to this collasal issue.

Pissed off and dissappointed.

All 4 the $$$$$$$$$$ to feed there ego's. these guy's have always lots the plot when it comes to the people around them who do the real work

I have to agree with the Big Dog comment. I have seen the first run of OCC's Production Bikes back in 2003-2004, when they made the TRex, it was too long, rode like crap, and the quality wasn't there...oh not to mention they were $7000-$10,000 more for a bike of a similar build. OCC is joke in my book, it's nice to turn on TV and watch some custom bikes being built, but if Discovery could have talked Jesse James into a similar show, it would be much more popular, and those bikes are the epitomy of high end motorcycling. Plus they are more a rider's bike, not a paint job, wheels, and a bunch of silly shit chromed and put everywhere on it. The new run of production bikes are again, much more expensive, but to me look like rip offs of Arlen Ness, and the spider bike is a cheap ass version of the real thing, but it costs $40,000. I could buy a Big Dog Wolf that is 10x the quality of that bike and put it to shame at any bike show. I actually own a 2005 Big Dog Chopper, and in my opinion with about $5000 worth of custom add-ons it's still nicer than those OCC produces new everyday. Jesse James, Arlen Ness, etc. set the gold standard for high end chopper building, it's just that OCC got their oportunity to capitalize on it. Paul Sr. is a complete ass, and is so stupid he can't perform half of the labor he oversees during builds, and all he's good at is bullying folks into getting what he thinks needs to be done, done. Paul Jr. and Vinny built that namesake and the father takes all the credit for doing nothing but yapping off at the mouth. OCC will fall and fall hard, they got too big too quick and the recession will eat them alive. Paul Jr and Vinny will survive off smaller incomes from smaller shops and may someday build it back up, too bad pops won't be around long enough to see it happen. Jesse should have taken that opportunity from OCC, difference is, he didn't need to. He builds approximately 12 bikes/year and makes all he needs, and he will continue to prosper due to the quality of the bikes he builds....not xmas tree ornaments for industrial companies...what crap.

just fake tv they are all working on vins show too

Why me say my gerbil son?

paul sr is such a douch bag . he acts like he does everything but the only thing he does is argue and critize his employees
thats why vinny and cody left. what a lonly way to run a fun business .

OMG he aint a fan of vinnie at all, stop the negativity plezzzz you obviousloy think the same as paul sr. poor sod

die all

IMO Vinnie was an arrogant asshole(not in the first seasons)

I watch OCC with my hubby for years. I really don't recall one time when Sr complemented Jr. for any of his ideas and work. Maybe he said it to someone else, but I never saw an episode where he said good job jr. or atta boy. Once in a while it would be encouraging to hear a positive come out of Sr. instead of the constant negatives and birching he does. I understand he has a business to run and Jr. shows up late, but jr also stays late, and works hard. Yes it is a family run business, but really family or not, how long would any of us work under the conditions jr has, no wonder Vinny left. Without Jr the show is not the same, and will probably loose what viewership it has left and get cancelled.

Folks, grab a hold of the reality of this reality show. The bikes aren't making them rich, the show is. Jr is still with OCC and the fights are staged. Notice the camera angles are just right when they throw things around...and they were set up perfect when Jr. stormed out of the shop when he got fired. They probably had to film that a few times. Get a grasp people. I'm not even convinced Vinnie is on his own. Vinnie (V-force) and Cody very well could still be on OCC's payroll. The show is nearing an end and they are just milking what they can before American Chopper is just a memory.

Well, let's see. The Teutels borrowed all that money to build a new maga-facility right before the recession hit. They also started a line of production choppers at the same time. So all of a sudden they have a trailer-load of debt and choppers aren't selling. The ratings of their show are down, so they're in danger of losing their source of advertising and publicity. People out of work don't really identify with their rich life style. Their choppers have just become the corporate promotion of the week.

So, gosh, all of a sudden Paulie decides to leave OCC in one of the first episodes of the new season. Oh, the tragedy! Oh, the drama! Will Paulie return to his fading gravy train? Will Paulie join Vinnie and put V-Force in real competition with OCC?

Oh sure. Does anybody think this show isn't scripted down to the commercial products strategically scattered arouund in every shot.

I used to like Paul Senior. His ego has gotten the best of him and my Big Dog Bike blows away his Orange County Flopper. Vinnie was the main reason that the Bikes were high quality. They were just at Laughlin and the Bikes were OK but not as good as a lot of others . Later

The fight was fake and staged for ratings...Paul jr works at occ everyday.

It,s sad to watch a father and his son part ways in a family business,I don't wish Ill to either one of them,but I have found out that yelling and screaming between father and son,never solved anything!I know because this happened to me! Vinny left, Paul Jr. is gone and Mikey wishes he could leave,maybe just maybe,when Paul Sr. is lying in a hospital bed from heart failure due to stress,who do you think will be the first ones to be by his side? Yep your right,the same people he's treated like shit. To bad Sr. thinks his way is the only way.I wish all of them success, and I'm glad my mom and dad are still married and I love them both and treat them with respect! I'm 57yrs old raising a 14yr old daughter,I let her watch your show to show her how NOT to treat people. Thank You.

no... you wouldnt you fucking douche bag

I'd love to see occ fail and vinny come out on top. be nice...